Mold stain help!!!

[Jim Nazarian]

Wool rug with mold was left on wood floor only 5 days, after picking up we noticed this

Sprayed Quat-a-lot, let dwell for 20 minutes then steam cleaned...then sprayed Microban Germicidal Cleaner Concentrate & hoped the "blackened" area would dry out & go away, 5 days later it looked like this still

So tried some solvent cleaner & a high PH cleaner & the "black" won't budge, I sprayed some bleach as a last resort but after 20 minutes didn't look any brighter, what are my options?

Steel wool?
Sand it down?

Doing this as a favor but honestly its my first time so I could use some help.

 

[J Scott W]

I would suggest a screening which uses a screen under a 175 RPM floor machine. This is like sand paper, but less aggressive than sanding with drum sander or belt sander.

I am not sure this is a job a beginner should tackle.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Wood bleach, added to Scott's comment.

 

[Ray Burnfield]

I would not put anymore liquids on that floor. Moisture has gotten in between the boards. Is there any cupping or crowning? if not it might dry by itself. It needs to be completely dry before you can fix it.

 

[Jim Nazarian]

I would not put anymore liquids on that floor. Moisture has gotten in between the boards. Is there any cupping or crowning? if not it might dry by itself. It needs to be completely dry before you can fix it.

I feared cupping but so far none has occurred.

Going to pick up some wood bleach in the morning & take a belt sander if I can't find screens.

Found some highly rated floor company's on Yelp to call if I feel I am making the situation worse.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

I don't buy the 5 days.

 

[Mikey P]

5 months..

 

[Jim Nazarian]

I don't buy the 5 days.

Thats what I was told & I asked twice.

Heres the whole story, 6 months ago the owners were put into an assisted living home, the kids brought in a cleaning lady who happened to have a husband who cleans carpets, he cleaned this rug & wrapped it plastic & it sat rolled up for 6 months, they finally unrolled it & discovered mold so they called me, I bring it into the shop & fully unroll it & discover its "rotted out", I find out home owner in the past had used bleach & rug Dr type cleanings...so I cut up the rug & trashed it.

The owners are my parents best friends, so now I have to fix this crap.They were always too cheap to hire me, the man is a multi millionare & refused to hire a gardner even at the age of 94!

 

[Lee Stockwell]

NO NO NO you don't have to fix anything.

Send them flowers and your regrets.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

It would cost about $700 to fix that correctly here. I'm sure much more there. It didn't happen the way they said. It was wet many times, a little at a time. Guessing a pet used the rug over time, rug "cleaned" in place several times, etc.

What did the floor smell like?, the rug likewise?

 

[Ray Burnfield]

Repairable but Not fixable.
Replace damaged boards. Sand whole floor and apply finish.
Only way to get it right.
Sorry

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Nah, a belt sander will rip that right off, best to do whole room. Follow with some color voodoo, stain, and poly. Will look like a million bucks.


PS If you've never mastered this, well this isn't the job to practice on.

 

[Jim Nazarian]

It would cost about $700 to fix that correctly here. I'm sure much more there. It didn't happen the way they said. It was wet many times, a little at a time. Guessing a pet used the rug over time, rug "cleaned" in place several times, etc.

What did the floor smell like?, the rug likewise?

No pets.
The rug & the room it was in did not have an odor when I first picked up the rug, the floor has no odor!

 

[Lee Stockwell]

No odor, perhaps.

History, I'm certain.

 

[Jim Nazarian]

Repairable but Not fixable.
Replace damaged boards. Sand whole floor and apply finish.
Only way to get it right.
Sorry

I was afraid of that.

 

[Jim Nazarian]

Nah, a belt sander will rip that right off, best to do whole room. Follow with some color voodoo, stain, and poly. Will look like a million bucks.


PS If you've never mastered this, well this isn't the job to practice on.

Ok, I will hire someone & probably get stuck with the bill.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

YOU didn't do it!!!?

 

[Jim Nazarian]

YOU didn't do it!!!?

No, I had nothing to do with it!

But now my Mother involved me & these people were Church Deacons for 50 years so I am totally screwed. Hoping its my one good deed of the year or maybe find a way to turn it into a church contribution (tax write off).

 

[kmdineen]

You may want to try Concrobium Mold Stain Remover-two part. You might get lucky.

 

[Jim Pemberton]

No, I had nothing to do with it!

But now my Mother involved me & these people were Church Deacons for 50 years so I am totally screwed. Hoping its my one good deed of the year or maybe find a way to turn it into a church contribution (tax write off).

Jim,

Its not our place to tell you how to conduct yourself in your business/personal life. When you see strong statements about you staying out of this, much of it comes from our own experiences of being thrust into situations like this because of the unfair expectations of others, and our own sense of caring and wanting to do "the right thing".

That said, I'd like to offer you three thoughts that were shared with me when I was younger and less wise, by men who were older and through the course of life's events, wiser:

"Your friends will get you after your relatives are through with you"

"No good deed goes unpunished"

"Never do anything for free. But if you do, expect to pay for it"

Those cynical statements have proven true so often in my life, and I would think in the lives of the battle scarred veterans here.

Should you decide to proceed, count on all of us to help you all that we can. We understand where you are.

 

[Brian H]

Don't be so sure that the rug was there for more hen a few days. We did the same thing to a wood floor we have in our old showroom that we are converting to a rug repair area. We laid a damp tufted rug out flat on the floor for 2 days and this is what we saw when we moved it.

 

[Desk Jockey]

We laid a damp tufted rug out flat on the floor for 2 days and this is what we saw when we moved it.

Brian if I didn't know you, an trust your word, I would have never believed it. That looks like something that took place over weeks or months.



If its my fault and the client would allow me I might try a product like this.

http://www.fastmoldremoval.com/?CID=SRTmv13635_25282

 

[hogjowl]

I was thinking these people HAD to be relatives of Ofer until you said something about church deacons.

 

[Jim Nazarian]

@brian, what was the remedy?

 

[Jim Nazarian]

Brian if I didn't know you an trust your word I would have never believed it. That looks like something that took place over weeks or months.



If its my fault and the client would allow me I might try a product like this.

http://www.fastmoldremoval.com/?CID=SRTmv13635_25282

Thanks, looks like a great product! Unfortunately I don't have a week to sit around & wait for shipping from Chicago.

 

[Jim Nazarian]

Next time a customer wants to be cheap & save money by cleaning rugs in their home...show them Brian's pictures.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Check with local suppliers. There are other products that may work but just not as fast.

Concrobium can be bought from many suppliers.

http://concrobiumpro.com/gallery/

 

[J Scott W]

Concrobium Mold Stain Remover is in stock at several California Interlink Supply locations. Also some other good mold stain removers such as Advanced Peroxide Cleaner from Fiberlock.

You may as well try the easy way first, but I still think you will get back to the screen or sand options to make it completely right. Maybe since it is not your issues they will settle for good improvement.

 

[Jim Nazarian]

I made 2 appointments with floor restoration company's today accepting boards need to be replaced then stained by a pro, 11:00 appointment no show my 4th grade daughter flew to Sacramento with her class so I have lots of nervous energy so I grab the belt sander, slap on 50 grit mostly to kill time & since I am likely stuck paying might as well really mess things up right? So I sand down the area (haven't sanded anything in years) then grab some Clorox Outdoor Bleach that I had in the van & spray the area (don't worry, nobody lives in the house, its going to be torn down after its sold anyways...land is worth way more then the house...Sherman Oaks, Ca.) I was going to order the 2 part Concrobium Mold Stain Remover but the Clorox appeared to be doing its job in the mean time. The 2nd contractor finally shows up & says boards don't need replacing, he would just finish sanding, stain then polyurethane..I tell him great when can you start, he tells me they are booked until May 8th

I guess I will experiment & practice until I can hire someone.

Progress???

Before

 

[Brian H]

@brian, what was the remedy?

None yet, I took those pictures to post them here. It may not be the same as yours. Ours almost has a burnt look to them.