Hydroforce dilution

[sassyotto]

switched do a different powder. But instructions (below) are for Truckmount metered chemical injection systems. What would the ratio be to use in a Hydroforce 8/1?

Truck Mount Use: 20 ounces (2.5 cups) into 5 gallons of warm water until completely dissolved to make truck mount concentrate for use in chemical injection system. For stain‐ resistant carpet, set truck mount chemical injection system for 2 gallons per hour. For commercial and non‐stain resistant carpet, set truck mount chemical injection for 4 gallons per hour.

 

[Jim Pemberton]

switched do a different powder. But instructions (below) are for Truckmount metered chemical injection systems. What would the ratio be to use in a Hydroforce 8/1?

Truck Mount Use: 20 ounces (2.5 cups) into 5 gallons of warm water until completely dissolved to make truck mount concentrate for use in chemical injection system. For stain‐ resistant carpet, set truck mount chemical injection system for 2 gallons per hour. For commercial and non‐stain resistant carpet, set truck mount chemical injection for 4 gallons per hour.

That's a lot of product to go into truck mount stock solution. I'm not being critical, its just that most everything on the market is designed to be diluted at 1.5# per 5 gallons.

You're sure that's right?

Detergents designed for carpet cleaning extractors are usually designed to be the equivalent of about 256 to 1 (1/2 oz per gallon or 2 ounces in 5 gallons) after being prediluted in a stock solution then metered through the chemical injection system. If you use this type of product as a prespray in lieu of a traffic lane preconditioner you can end up with a higher amount of surfactant being put onto the carpet than you might want, and not as much solvent boosters as you might wish for.

If this product has a color to it, using it as a prespray can result in staining the carpet. Over the years, a few guys who have used "blue powders" made by some of the more recognized manufacturers have stained carpet blue, as they were prespraying stronger solutions than the 256:1 formulation called for.

If your product is white or light yellow, this shouldn't be an issue.

OK, you didn't ask for all of this Paul. I just can't help myself I guess.

I really think that the question would be best answered by the formulator. They should know how much you should use to make into a stock solution that cuts 8:1

 

[sassyotto]

That's a lot of product to go into truck mount stock solution. I'm not being critical, its just that most everything on the market is designed to be diluted at 1.5# per 5 gallons.

You're sure that's right?

yes, copied and pasted.

 

[Jim Pemberton]

yes, copied and pasted.

This has nothing to do with your original question, so if you do don’t care to know, just scroll by:

Nearly all, if not all, powdered detergents contain fillers, which are inexpensive materials that add bulk and weight to the product in the same way that water does for water based detergents.

It’s very likely that this product contains more filler than the 1.5 # product. That’s not really bad if the filler dissolves easily and stays in solution, but what can happen is that the product is more likely to leave a harsh hand to the carpet, and could leave potential skin irritants. Over time, these can accumulate and dull colors in nylon and wool.

Since your intended use for the product is to use it as a prespray, I think this is less likely of course. It would pay to follow it with soft water or an acid rinse.

Please don’t tell me whose product it is; I wouldn’t want anyone to feel personally attacked.

My suppositions could be wrong of course. It could be there are characteristics of this product that I’m not aware of that causes them to suggest using nearly twice as much product than most other companies