100% VLM ???

[bob vawter]

I break every grandy groomer I run across !
How can anyone be that dumb?

 

[frank fratto]

I break every grandy groomer I run across !
How can anyone be that dumb?

I was born that way!!

Do you have a problem with THAT??

 

[they live]

I was born that way!!

Do you have a problem with THAT??

Its not his problem.

 

[frank fratto]

Its not his problem.

GOOD!!!------------

 

[Kenny Hayes]

I break every grandy groomer I run across !
How can anyone be that dumb?

If you know how to wand, you wouldn't leave little or big trees Bob

 

[frank fratto]

ConDog is not, I repeat, is not going to the dark side. Where you been Con? Y'all just skipped right over the two porty extractors. THAT makes him a dual method cleaner when the need arises. Not real sure you could put him in the VLM only category.

If beginners would do the dual process,
until they get confident in what were doing,
they would become a Better long-term cleaner.

Not say ConDog a beginners.

 

[jessi]

ConDog is not, I repeat, is not going to the dark side. Where you been Con? Y'all just skipped right over the two porty extractors. THAT makes him a dual method cleaner when the need arises. Not real sure you could put him in the VLM only category.

I’d put him against any truckmount

 

[Mikey P]

I break every grandy groomer I run across !
How can anyone be that dumb?

I've come to really love my Grandi


It should be all a 2%r needs, along with some patience and understanding.

 

[Kenny Hayes]

If you're gonna use one at least a grandi brush!

 

[they live]

George and matt and steve,

I think "what do i know?"
VLM is as good if not Better!
I think it actually gives the carpet more life not less! {if done properly}
Pads washing though the 1 inch carpet fiber,
Pulling soil, and resetting the TWIST!
Just makes so much sense to me!!!!


Just don't see myself going back to a truck mount??

Like someone else asked...
Do you wash your pads in water or vacuum then to get them clean?
How fast do pads load up with detergent and soil before they should be changed out?
Do you go back to vacuum after the carpet is dry or expected the homeowner to do it with their $59 dollar Bissell?
Why do carpet manufacturers recomend HWE?

Make your money that's what its about i guess but no matter how much you claim its better the evidence doesnt support it.

 

[frank fratto]

Like someone else asked...
Do you wash your pads in water or vacuum then to get them clean?
How fast do pads load up with detergent and soil before they should be changed out?
Do you go back to vacuum after the carpet is dry or expected the homeowner to do it with their $59 dollar Bissell?
Why do carpet manufacturers recomend HWE?

Make your money that's what its about i guess but no matter how much you claim its better the evidence doesnt support it.

Who's evidence yours or mine????

You wash pads in a washing machine "DUH"

Pads load up, depending on the soil load? Then you change them.

Homeowner vacuums every week with there $59 dollar Bissell.

I per vacuum with my Sanitary BEFORE cleaning! {JUST LIKE YOU?????}

Have you ask yourself that QUESTION???? Why do they?

Do they truly care about their PRODUCT????? {carpet manufacturers --What a JOKE!]

I make money and i would like you to make money!!!!!!!!!

WE ARE ON THE SAME TEAM!!!

 

[they live]

You're making assumptions on all but 2 replies.

And those are questionable.

 

[frank fratto]

You're making assumptions on all but 2 replies.

And those are questionable.

Do tell ? Explain??

 

[SteamwayPro]

Robin,

Is absolutely Right!!!

Look what is going on my Van

Next time I have Apartments to do at my Apt Complex I'm giving the 13'' Hawk 175-300 a try

I will use the Bonnet Pro Multi Brush to scrub and 15'' Iron man to extract

I haven't used it for at least 10 years

I bought it around 2010 to scrub trashed rentals when I was still HWE

And used it when I first started experimenting with VLM in 2012


You don't realize how show a 175 is until you use a 300

I love having that option

Look at how small those wheels are

 

[Dwain Ray]

I heard it all before from the von Schrader dry foam people(their all gone) then it was the Host guys (their all gone now too). After them the chem-dry rub n dash guy's were really loud, they stood on their soap boxes and preached the same sermon as you for 30+ years i might add lets see what are they doing??? O ya! They HWE now( after 35+ years of vlm) but they say their still better cus their solution is carbonated. (And mine is not) what ever my challenge still stands come on down ill show you what CLEAN really looks,feels, and smells like. And you won't be able to come close to achieving it NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU RUB

 

[frank fratto]

Look what is going on my Van

Next time I have Apartments to do at my Apt Complex I'm giving the 13'' Hawk 175-300 a try

I will use the Bonnet Pro Multi Brush to scrub and 15'' Iron man to extract

I haven't used it for at least 10 years

I bought it around 2010 to scrub trashed rentals when I was still HWE

And used it when I first started experimenting with VLM in 2012


You don't realize how show a 175 is until you use a 300

I love having that option

Look at how small those wheels are

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Mixing it up and having FUN!!!!

 

[frank fratto]

I heard it all before from the von Schrader dry foam people(their all gone) then it was the Host guys (their all gone now too). After them the chem-dry rub n dash guy's were really loud, they stood on their soap boxes and preached the same sermon as you for 30+ years i might add lets see what are they doing??? O ya! They HWE now( after 35+ years of vlm) but they say their still better cus their solution is carbonated. (And mine is not) what ever my challenge still stands come on down ill show you what CLEAN really looks,feels, and smells like. And you won't be able to come close to achieving it NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU RUB

You guys do realize? carpet cleaning companies in big cities,
San Francisco, Chicago, NYC, some of the most expensive real-estate Highrise condos use?
VLM, because of noise restriction.
not only is it here to stay,
but it will take over the industry?

No one is making new steam cleaning chemicals?
But everyone is coming out with NEW

VLM CHEMICALS!!!!!!

I wonder why? it's only been around for ---100 years..............

 

[Dwain Ray]

You guys do realize? carpet cleaning companies in big cities,
San Francisco, Chicago, NYC, some of the most expensive real-estate Highrise condos use?
VLM, because of noise restriction.
not only is it here to stay,
but it will take over the industry?

No one is making new steam cleaning chemicals?
But everyone is coming out with NEW

VLM CHEMICALS!!!!!!

I wonder why? it's only been around for ---100 years..............

Same sermon, different soapbox. People starting businesses these days wanta get into it cheap and easy. We see it in carpet cleaning as well as window cleaning. Us old timers use a brush and squeegee. Kids these days wanta use deionized water. Why because it's easier faster more profitable not better. Come on down take the challenge, beat me and ill preach your sermon the loudest. But till that happens im not drinking the kool-aid Reverend

 

[frank fratto]

I heard it all before from the von Schrader dry foam people(their all gone) then it was the Host guys (their all gone now too). After them the chem-dry rub n dash guy's were really loud, they stood on their soap boxes and preached the same sermon as you for 30+ years i might add lets see what are they doing??? O ya! They HWE now( after 35+ years of vlm) but they say their still better cus their solution is carbonated. (And mine is not) what ever my challenge still stands come on down ill show you what CLEAN really looks,feels, and smells like. And you won't be able to come close to achieving it NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU RUB

Most truck mount companies been bought and sold

Heck, good luck trying to fine a GOOD MECHANIC to work on your machine, in a timely manner?

Pretty soon there will be only maybe one or two truck mount suppliers out there?

Seems to be getting smaller and smaller?

Same sermon, different soapbox. People starting businesses these days wanta get into it cheap and easy. We see it in carpet cleaning as well as window cleaning. Us old timers use a brush and squeegee. Kids these days wanta use deionized water. Why because it's easier faster more profitable not better. Come on down take the challenge, beat me and ill preach your sermon the loudest. But till that happens im not drinking the kool-aid Reverend

Dwain, in your shop you are the KING!!!

 

[Mikey P]

Same sermon, different soapbox. People starting businesses these days wanta get into it cheap and easy. We see it in carpet cleaning as well as window cleaning. Us old timers use a brush and squeegee. Kids these days wanta use deionized water. Why because it's easier faster more profitable not better. Come on down take the challenge, beat me and ill preach your sermon the loudest. But till that happens im not drinking the kool-aid Reverend

You do down Kool-Aid by the waste tank fall, it's just a different flavor..

 

[frank fratto]

Mixing it up and having FUN!!!!

George,
Remember ,the red pad is your best friend!

It SCRUBS and HOLDS so much Soil before you extract with your bonnet.

Did i say PET HAIR!!!!!!!!!!! LOLLOLLOL

 

[The Boot]

You can guarantee the following will occur:
After you clean with the most powerful TM or portable go over the carpet again with a rotary or orbital and you will see a difference as more soil is removed.
After you clean with either a rotary or orbital go over the carpet again with the most powerful TM or portable and you will see a difference as more soil is removed.
A professional cleaner will understand.
Yes, I do use both methods as they both have their own benefits.
Happy cleaning guys.

 

[frank fratto]

The true test is to come back the next day.

the next week.

the next month.

 

[The Boot]

The true test is to come back the next day.

the next week.

the next month.

All things being equal time should not be of any concern, right?

 

[frank fratto]

You can guarantee the following will occur:
After you clean with the most powerful TM or portable go over the carpet again with a rotary or orbital and you will see a difference as more soil is removed.
After you clean with either a rotary or orbital go over the carpet again with the most powerful TM or portable and you will see a difference as more soil is removed.
A professional cleaner will understand.
Yes, I do use both methods as they both have their own benefits.
Happy cleaning guys.

All things being equal time should not be of any concern, right?

All things being equal?

VLM ,WILL LOOK BETTER A WEEK AND A MONTH LATER....

 

[bob vawter]

All things being equal?

VLM ,WILL LOOK BETTER A WEEK AND A MONTH LATER....

wait a minite....are you in this to make the carpet clean or

load up the bank account.....!

 

[Kenny Hayes]

All things being equal?

VLM ,WILL LOOK BETTER A WEEK AND A MONTH LATER....

I guess if a cleaner leaves detergent in the carpet that might be true, but who does that?

 

[bob vawter]

If you know how to wand, you wouldn't leave little or big trees Bob

all them little old black ladies in the ghetto

loved the s**t outta thems shartoof lines on their floor

 

[bob vawter]

I've come to really love my Grandi


It should be all a 2%r needs, along with some patience and understanding.

jus lik the daze of Gurkinky only backwards............

 

[Dwain Ray]

wait a minite....are you in this to make the carpet clean or

load up the bank account.....!

I believe it's the latter